Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William R. Larson

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Round Table Pizza. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

William R. Larson

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This article started out as part family obituary, part blatant advert for a restaurant chain: [1]. Following cleanup, there's no indication of how he meets WP:BIO as a businessman, with the only WP:Reliable sources cited being short obituaries and a passing mention in Fast Company in connection with the notable restaurant chain he founded. External links has now been WP:NOTEBOMBed with links mostly about his company, plus a Justia link about a court case in which he was involved. The little content worth merging already exists at the company article. Captain Calm (talk) 08:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Captain Calm (talk) 08:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Captain Calm (talk) 08:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep :William R. Larson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) View: KEEP. Disclaimer: I'm new so forgive me if everything was completely wrong. I am advocating to keep this page. After rereading all the guidelines of WP:BIO I now believe after my new updates/edits/sources this page follows all guidelines and is justified as being considered "Notable". I do not believe the first edition published of this page should affect your decision and be held against the page, as it was an oversight to the guidelines. No business advert here or family obiturary whatsoever anymore. These errors are now gone. The obituary and "promotion" writings were because I sourced the entire material forgetting to ensure it wasn't bias or a hard company sell, a silly oversight on my part. The page now no longer shows any of these.[2] The page is now a complying w/ Wikipedia's bio guidelines (although breif) of a notable man & Restaurant founder of one of the most successful Pizza Franchises in the world Round Table Pizza. The page is easily consideredWP:BIO His biography of a simple businessman and his success. In the northern California region he is quite know; an icon/ legend and very well known throughout the Bay Area. WP:BIO Also I do disagree the page DOES show how he is a CA business man, how he got the company started, the idea behind it, and how it's grown. All done simply and unbias. William Larson has also been listed on countless websites as a "notable resident" of both Palo Alto, CA and Menlo Park, CA. Finally I MUST disagree, the company bio Wikipedia page Round Table Pizza does not already have content on William R. Larson that the company page already has. The Round Table Page mentions ONE line of how it started, only saying the date & location 1959. Sorry for the long responses and I hope this all makes sense. Thank you. :) TWL (talk) 5:40, 21 September 2020 (PST) — Note to closing admin: Timmylarson (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.

This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. TWL (talk) 06:4:30am PST, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Delete sadly. I had at the outset thought that the subject was genuinely notable, but a fairly thorough WP:BEFORE search turned up nothing that would make the subject pass WP:BASIC or WP:ANYBIO. It is of course possible that sources exist but are not easily accessible, but so far I see no evidence of notability. Java Hurricane 14:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ :William R. Larson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (Sorry for doubling down on the "Keep", newbie here.) William R. Larson The man who started the 5th BIGGEST Pizza Chain in U.S history on less than $2,000 Round Table Pizza. WP:BIO THAT is notable, and definitely categorizes him as a success and the step her took to achieve this. Over the decades William R. Larson has had several magazine/ new articles written about him and his success though most written in the 50s/60s/70s. I will try to gather a much as I can from what hasn't been destroyed, but i believe I've given more than enough sources WP:BIO WP:BEFORE. The Round Table Wiki pages needs to has it's name listed, should be linked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TWL (talk • contribs)
- UPDATE 9:48AM (PST). :William R. Larson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) WP:NOTEBOMB No longer applies, I have now corrected all issues. Ive added a couple of articles WP:BEFORE. As stated this man is known throughout the Northern California Bay Area & beyond. His picture is hung in all 400+ restaurant locations with a brief biography on his life and how RTP got started. William R. Larson was a U.S. Navy Veteran and created one of the most popular and successful pizza franchises in California, with revenues in the millions. This is not some small unknown business and it's founder. His bio wiki page is breif and not selling any opinions and stated exactly how he came about making Round Table Pizza as a businessman. Also WP:BASIC has been met and exceeded with his life being covered for the Bio and secondary sources. Thank you :) TWL (talk) 7:40AM, 21 September 2020 (PST)

Striking your double vote: you're welcome to continue posting comments and updates, but not multiple "keep"s, thanks. Captain Calm (talk) 17:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timmylarson, are you related in any way to William Larson? In that case you have a conflict of interest: please review our conflict of interest policy. Also, the current sources in no way lead to passage of WP:BIO. Java Hurricane 04:26, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JavaHurricane, No I am not a blood relative to William R. Larson. Never actually met him before his death. I am a Bay Area local and believe in the creation of this page. There is no conflict or bias in my article as I have reviewed the our conflict of interest policy. I will continue to update the current sources to adhere to WP:BIO although saying it in no way leads to WP:BIO seems a bit unfair. I feel as thought the page is appropriate and William R. Larson constitutes a notable person Java TimmyLarson 01:05 AM, 22 September 2020 (PST)

Merge to Round Table Pizza. Non-bylined and relatively short obituaries in locally-oriented papers just don't establish independent notability for me. However, there's no need to lose the content as it would seem that RTP is notable, and he's directly connected to it. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Round Table Pizza. Much of the article's content is present the Round Table Pizza article, and redirection would allow for the selective merging of additional pertinent, sourced content from this article to the Round Table Pizza article (WP:ATD-M). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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